Video on ‘Should Christians drink alcohol? Here is a Biblical response,’ by Bill Rhetts, MA

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MethuskoIn this message I discuss four arguments (or alleged Biblical excuses) that many ‘believers’ give, to justify their alcohol consumption.

I then give a Biblical response to each of them. I also confess that I too once gave many of these same excuses myself.

Correction at time stamp 21:00:  That wine which Jesus refused to drink in Matt 27:34, was just moments ‘prior’ to His crucifixion. However I failed to mention a second incident in my message. The ‘second’ time they placed a sponge of vinegar (KJV), or “sour wine” to His mouth, was in John 19:28-30. This was done only as a fulfillment of prophecy. Where it was foretold in the O.T. that the Lord would suffer from a severe dry mouth (Psalm 22:15.) Nevertheless the Lord did not make alcohol, nor did He drink it.

Some of you might pull the “that’s legalism” card. If that’s you, please watch this commentary on what legalism is, and what it is not.

I failed to mention some other points in this video. Fact is in many cases it can be a sin to drink, even without being “drunk.” Following are some of them.

  • Are you drinking against the conviction of the Holy Spirit?
  • Does it cause others to stumble (Remember what Jesus said about that?)
  • Does it bring an offense to the brethren?
  • Does it cause you to commit sins (or crimes,) that you would not have, had you not been drinking?
  • Does it harm your body, the temple of the Holy Spirit?
  • Are you addicted?
  • Does it affect your mind like drugs?
  • Does it make you methusko?
  • Is it destroying your marriage?
  • Is it destroying your testimony?

“Watch for the guys even in our own church. Who are the loudest and most vehement in defending these kinds of things. And you just look and tell me, are they the Godliest among us. Are they the ones that you want to pattern your life after. Are they the ones that set the standard. Are they the ones that when you see them, you feel convicted. Or are they the ones… (that compromise.) Pastor Tim Conway.

2 Responses to Video on ‘Should Christians drink alcohol? Here is a Biblical response,’ by Bill Rhetts, MA

  1. What I failed to mention in this video, is how many crimes, violence, and death that alcohol causes. Not to mention all the many many ‘sins.’ But I wanted to keep it under 30 minutes. Looking back, I committed so many sins under the influence of alcohol, that I would have never committed, had I not been drinking. The Lord knows that I don’t’ need any extra help sinning, that’s for sure.

  2. Bill Rhetts says:

    I shared the following on Facebook today: If we loved our fellow brethren, then we would walk and talk circumspectly amongst them. I will not share the venue, nor the event, nor the pastors’ name, but recently a pastor shared ‘from the pulpit’ his love for “beer and wine” consumption.

    To say the least, I was highly offended. But rather than the speaker repent and/or apologize, he added insult to injury. He then mishandled the Scriptures stating that the verse in 1 Timothy 3:3, that an Elder must not be “given to wine,” merely means do not be “drunk” on wine. And that Timothy must have had a “stressful” job, therefore alcoholic consumption was probably a good stress reliever for him. If that wasn’t a self-gratifying eisegesis, I don’t know what is.

    That phrase must “not be given to wine” (a disqualifier for Elder) comes from the Greek word ‘paroinos.’ To paroinos means “staying near wine, i.e. tippling (a toper):–given to wine.”

    It is tantamount to a person that longs to have a daily drink. For example a person that is eager to get off work, so that he can have a beer, wine, or other alcoholic beverage. It is a person that makes it a “habit” for them to do so. As Barnes commentary describes, “one who sits “by” wine; that is, who is in the habit of drinking it.”

    Furthermore, if a person has to rely on, or trust in alcohol to relieve their levels of stress, then perhaps their alcohol has become an idol.

    Sadly not only do we see (or hear) Christians (lay people) boast (or share) their alcohol consumption on social media, some leaders are doing the same from pulpits.

    Similar to the many people in many congregations, the Lord has ‘delivered’ me from alcohol. I am judging myself here. Though I’m still a sinner, alcohol caused me to sin even more, it caused me to say sinful things, and do sinful things, that I would not have, had I not consumed any alcohol at all. And by the grace of God, I’ve been sober for many years now.

    Sadly when Christians like myself have these convictions, they are slandered by being wrongfully called a “legalist,” or a Pharisee” for abstaining.

    Fact is not everyone has liberty to consume alcohol (I don’t).

    In many cases it can be a sin to drink, even without being “drunk.” Following are some of them.
     Are you drinking against the conviction of the Holy Spirit?
     Does it cause others to stumble (Remember what Jesus said about that?)
     Does it bring an offense to the brethren?
     Does it cause you to commit sins (or crimes,) that you would not have, had you not been drinking?
     Does it harm your body, the temple of the Holy Spirit?
     Are you addicted (is it a habit)?
     Does it affect your mind like drugs?
     Does it make you methusko?
     Is it destroying your marriage?
     Is it destroying your testimony?

    “Watch for the guys even in our own church. Who are the loudest and most vehement in defending these kinds of things. And you just look and tell me, are they the Godliest among us. Are they the ones that you want to pattern your life after. Are they the ones that set the standard. Are they the ones that when you see them, you feel convicted. Or are they the ones… (that compromise.) Pastor Tim Conway.

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